Aussie Muscle!

[winschy]

I have just been curious, but how many people who are members, like old cars like the Holden HQ Monaro, Torana, or even the Ford XA GT Falcon, or the Ford GHTO Phase 3. If anyone is interested or has any pics of mates cars who have these or other great classics, feel free to show other countries, and fellow Australian's, that we have some nice Muscle Cars in Australia. :drunk:

[Drk Guy]

Those cars really suck, the only old models i like are the Evos (Not the previous Lancers)

[STREETFIRE]

Oh, go away!

I seriously wish he wouldn't bag muscle cars like that. And the old Evos weren't even classics!

Are you a muscle fan, winschy?

[STREETFIRE]

Guess I can start calling you 'mate' then.

Did you hear about that GTHO Phase III that sold for $680,000? Much better than any Evo :-p

[winschy]

Oh hell yea, my dad was thinkin bout buying one and restoring it, but he dont have enough money.

[winschy]

I've got a fair few ay, it ranges from the XU1 Torana, to even the XB GT Falcon. What about yours?

[Drk Guy]

Hey Street, leave me alone, i know what i like and i will leave it that way!!!!!!!

[sagwa]

$600,000!! Must be butt kicking!!:D

-Sagwa:banana:

[Drk Guy]

That's so expensive for :lame: Muscle cars

[winschy]

Well it was the last one of them that was original and nor a replica. But thats the joy of Muscle cars, they may cost you a bit now, but once your finished with them, they will go as good as new, if not, alot better.

[STREETFIRE]

$600,000!! Must be butt kicking!!:D

-Sagwa:banana:Yep. It is.

Back in its day, the XY GTHO Phase III was the world's fastest production sedan. Packing a 351-cube bent-eight (5.8 litres for ya tuners), room to spare for four blokes, Holley quad-barrel carbie and that iconic shaker hood scoop, it put 390 hp to your disposal. Bloody awesome considering the day and age it came from.

Alas, I am no Ford fan, but I was wooed by the Phase III for a while. Until I had a look at the 327 Monaro... :-D

[STREETFIRE]

Well it was the last one of them that was original and nor a replica. But thats the joy of Muscle cars, they may cost you a bit now, but once your finished with them, they will go as good as new, if not, alot better.You are a true muscle head :-)

[winschy]

Cheers mate. I have my dad to thank me fro introducing me to some old cars, and know I've taken that a lot further.

[STREETFIRE]

Blame my dad for the Holden fanboyism - he started the fire with his Chev 307-powered LJ Torana...

[STREETFIRE]

... and after the Torana ended up on the armco, he bought a VL 'Dore and worked it. With a free-flowing exhaust, Yella Terra heads, a blueprinted and balanced engine and some ECU mods...

[winschy]

I'll try and get a few pics from my mates dad, and his Torana. It isn't done up much but i think he wants to do more to it, or sell it.

[Drk Guy]

You like "ECU moding" old cars????
That's really :lame: x2

[STREETFIRE]

You like "ECU moding" old cars????
That's really :lame: x2You are so :lame: and one-dimensional!

[Drk Guy]

You are so :lame: and one-dimensional!

You are :lame: 10x

[winschy]

Drk Guy, i just got 1 question for ya. If you don't like muscle cars, why post comments then?

[STREETFIRE]

You like "ECU moding" old cars????
That's really :lame: x2You didn't know they even had ECUs?

Mate, seeing as you live in Columbia, you wouldn't have known how cool the muscle car is outside of South America. It's ruled America since the '60s, then it bulldozed us Aussies in the early '70s. Down Under, the term mainly used is 'street machine'. In America, it's the muscle-car phenomenon.

You can't admit the popularity of muscle cars.

[STREETFIRE]

As I said:



Thou art shall not befoul the Monaro 327.

[STREETFIRE]

Hey Winschy, here's a picture of Gary Myers' GM176 Mustang.

Even Drk Guy will love this... (http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3218/gm176ud3.jpg)

[winschy]

Nice, the old Mustangs are are nice piece of machinery. And that tops it all off. =D>

[winschy]

What are your thoughts of Hotrods?

[sagwa]

I like muscles, but I hate Streetfire's attitude to women drag racers.

-Sagwa:banana:

[Drk Guy]

Hey Winschy, here's a picture of Gary Myers' GM176 Mustang.

Even Drk Guy will love this... (http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3218/gm176ud3.jpg)

Nope, you are wrong STREET, that car keeps the :lame: design of the majority of muscles, when are you going to learn???

[Drk Guy]

Drk Guy, i just got 1 question for ya. If you don't like muscle cars, why post comments then?

I dunno, i just like to create polemics

[sagwa]

Hey Winschy, here's a picture of Gary Myers' GM176 Mustang.

Even Drk Guy will love this... (http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3218/gm176ud3.jpg)

That is amazing!!!

-Sagwa:banana:

[STREETFIRE]

Yes. It's amazing!

[STREETFIRE]

Nope, you are wrong STREET, that car keeps the :lame: design of the majority of muscles, when are you going to learn???Oh, come on. Muscle cars are anything but lame. You're just way too scared to admit that you lost your teeth when that GT500 you drove accelerated down the 400m in 8 sec.

[STREETFIRE]

I like muscles, but I hate Streetfire's attitude to women drag racers.I don't have a bad attitude to female drag racers...

There actually is a place for women in LEGAL drag racing (Down Under, various women have hit the 400m in style) but the glaring fact is that in street races, they tend to lose. I don't have a bad attitude to them, I just accept the facts.

[sagwa]

You only met 3 crummy ones. If you met an aggressive one, you would have met your match:D

-Sagwa:banana:

[sagwa]

See, you have an advantage, you know all of this.

-Sagwa:banana:

[STREETFIRE]

But they don't. It's what I've been trying to tell you...

BTW, you know there is such thing as "The Queen of the Nurburgring"?

She appeared on Top Gear once, driving a Ford Transit van around the 'Ring while drafting in the slipstream of a Dodge Viper.

Funny thing was, there were several Porsche drivers she overtook!

[Kelmas]

But they don't. It's what I've been trying to tell you...

BTW, you know there is such thing as "The Queen of the Nurburgring"?

She appeared on Top Gear once, driving a Ford Transit van around the 'Ring while drafting in the slipstream of a Dodge Viper.

Funny thing was, there were several Porsche drivers she overtook!
I've seen that show =D> She drove perfect :rally:

[STREETFIRE]

She lapped it in 10:08 when the van was on the crash diet, and the Viper was providing the slipstream. There was a first run, too...

[sagwa]

But they don't.

Yeah, but I can guarantee that there are some who do.

-Sagwa:banana:

[Drk Guy]

Women can know as much as boy, the thing is that they only like chatting in the cell-phone while they drive

[sagwa]

Who brought cell phones into the equation??

-Sagwa:banana:

[Drk Guy]

Street did!!!!

:mrgreen:

[sagwa]

Just wondering:D That is the stupidest excuse I ever heard!!

[Drk Guy]

Damn Straight!!!



Streetfire is out, finally we have peace here, yay!!!!

[winschy]

Oh well. I rekon she done really good in a Transit Van, even if she did get the help from the slipstream form the Viper, that is still an excellent time. =D>

[Drk Guy]

Yep, for being a MiniVan, i imagine how could it be if she were on a Lancer doing that race.....


Result of the equation=Lightining fast times!!!!


Added by Kelmas. Please stop posting "invisible" messages.

[winschy]

Why don't you like Muscle Cars Drk Guy?

[Drk Guy]

I think they're handling is so puny you won't resist it

[winschy]

That's why they started to put in a Power Steering pump in their cars. Although, even without the pump, it made the driving of one more enjoyable. If i had enough money, i was gonna buy a Chevrolet Chevelle, for $39,950. but i only had enough to settle for a Nissan 180sx.

[winschy]

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This is a pic of my mates, dads Torana. He wants me to help him do some work on it, but he hasnt got the parts yet.

[STREETFIRE]

Does he drag race it? If so, what's its best time?

[STREETFIRE]

Hey mate, why don't you post anymore...?

[winschy]

Yea, he has taken it to Willowbank a few times and the fastest he has gone is a 11.29.

[STREETFIRE]

My dad's LH Torana had a 307 Chev slotted into it. It was a good handler (due to the light weight) and the crazy power-to-weight ratio ensured that it went absolutely NUTS in a straight line - without tuning, it ran a mid-12. What happens when you stick a V8 into a 900kg car? You get a power-to-weight of something like 250kW/tonne.
Today they had the Muscle Car Masters on TV, it was damn good. I got to see plenty of classic muscle cars get the $#!* flogged outta them around the Eastern Creek circuit, it was good. Monaros rubbed shoulders (uncomfortably) with Falcon GTs, while Toranas mixed with Chargers and Camaros ran circles around Mustangs. There was also a Porsche and an [R31?] Skyline. You know what happens when German cars mix it with V8s - they lose!

[winschy]

Too true, i know this topic died in the ass pretty quick, but back to the original topic, aussie muscle, i don't like holdens new Torana. i rekon its rediculous

[sagwa]

What about its new Elfin MS8 Concept?? It looks very cool. I kinda like the new Torana because on the website, it is pink.

-Sagwa:banana:

[STREETFIRE]

Too true, i know this topic died in the ass pretty quick, but back to the original topic, aussie muscle, i don't like holdens new Torana. i rekon its rediculousAgreed. Turbo V6? I know that the UC Toranas did come with turbo 202's but this is just weird.

[winschy]

The new one has taken what was once called "good muscle" into a car that is used everyday, and has no muscle car features at all. Its not that often you see nice muscle cars driving around the streets, which is a shame, but no matter if you don't like care, or have a pashion for cars, when you see one, you always look at it. The new Torana won't have that affect, it just looks like the new VE commodores, which have had to be recalled back for a fuel line recall..... Shows how good holden is going at the moment

[STREETFIRE]

As they say... You can't recreate legends...

[Don't know 2.0]

they kinda did with the FORD GT

[winschy]

Are you on about the Ford GT40? or the FPV GT's?? my opinion is, the gt40, isnt the best car to ever own, or drive, yet the FPV's, they arent bad for a modern day car. And as Street mentioned, " You can't recreate legends "

[STREETFIRE]

I doubt he would know what an FPV GT is... lol.

Well, actually, compared to Ferraris, Lambos, etc., the Ford GT is a very tame car on the street... not to mention it packs some real (Ferrari-stomping) blown muscle. But I stand by what I said, you can't recreate legends.

[winschy]

But with a bit of research, they will learn basics on what the FPV GT is.... haha, but yea i agree with what you said about Ferrari's and Lambo's, compared to the Ford GT, but i still strongly agree with you, how you can't recreate legends, none the less, i would love to get my hands on a XU1 Torana ^.^

[STREETFIRE]

Droooool... I would kill for an LJ coupe but they're (nearly) as rare as hen's teeth because all the drag racers have been snapping them up because of their light weight.

[Don't know 2.0]

see, i'd disagree about the ford gt40 and its newer remake, the ford gt. i'd say they recreated a legend. but has the new one placed 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in lemans all in the same year? not yet.

1966. 3 races(can't remember where i read it from so only remember 2 races)

12 hrs lemans
24hrs lemans
3rd race


each race, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd places were won by gt40's. now that car is a legend. STREET, you think any car today can do that?

[STREETFIRE]

Be a bit more specific... any car in the Le Mans series? What kind of car exactly? A modern or old-school car?

[winschy]

I thought the Le Mans series was just now modern cars?

[Don't know 2.0]

i'll look up those races to be more specific. bottom line is that the gt40 has been the most successful racecar of its time.

[Don't know 2.0]

the le mans 24 hour victories i had mentioned were 4 years in a row from 66 to 1969.


car used in 1966: mk2 gt40
car used in 1967:mk4 gt40
car used in 1968: mk1 gt40
car used in 1969:mk 1 gt40.


it was a rather interesting history to read up on. this car is truly a legend.
what others are there that have done become legends?

[winschy]

I will agree, the gt40 is rather impressive car, but, i still rekon, there is better cars that are classified as legends....

[Don't know 2.0]

well yeah. there are plenty. i just think that because of how it became a legend that its just an awesome car. wat oher cars were you thinkin of winschy?

[STREETFIRE]

A9X Torana.
Phase 3 Falcon.

Just to name two legends.

[winschy]

Not only the two Street mentioned, but also in my opinion, the XA, XB, and XC falcon's, and the HQ Monaro. But thats just my opinion.....

[STREETFIRE]

It's about time we showed everyone a good example of Aussie Muscle:

GT Falcon on the Dyno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnnPP-cRXeM)
GT Falcon Burnout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6uXQg9u0Bw&feature=related)

Nothing like the sound of a Clevo I reckon.

WAR440 Valiant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRog6qRfjNw)

1028hp at the rear wheels, with a factory block and pump fuel. Need I say more?

HG Monaro Burnout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TECPjiIBe4s)

Bright orange Monaro. Yum.

Pics?

Some HK-T-G Monaros

http://www.outlawspeed.com.au/i/photos/cust/robynmonaro.jpg
http://www.comeracing.com/about/racing/milestone_01monaro.jpg
http://kentholloway.net/photos/lomo/2003/adelaide/monaro.jpg

OK, it's an HQ but shhh...

http://www.southcoastraceway.com/images/Bill%20Waldock.jpg

[sagwa]

Streetfire, have you ever seen a pink Monaro??

[STREETFIRE]

No, but I've seen a pink Torana.

[winschy]

I've seen a Pink Monaro, but it was the last of the ones, the CV8Z

[Don't know 2.0]

It's about time we showed everyone a good example of Aussie Muscle:

GT Falcon on the Dyno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnnPP-cRXeM)
GT Falcon Burnout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6uXQg9u0Bw&feature=related)

Nothing like the sound of a Clevo I reckon.

WAR440 Valiant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRog6qRfjNw)

1028hp at the rear wheels, with a factory block and pump fuel. Need I say more?

HG Monaro Burnout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TECPjiIBe4s)

Bright orange Monaro. Yum.

Pics?

Some HK-T-G Monaros

http://www.outlawspeed.com.au/i/photos/cust/robynmonaro.jpg
http://www.comeracing.com/about/racing/milestone_01monaro.jpg
http://kentholloway.net/photos/lomo/2003/adelaide/monaro.jpg

OK, it's an HQ but shhh...

http://www.southcoastraceway.com/images/Bill%20Waldock.jpg



how come us americans never see these beasts?

[winschy]

Because the only muscle cars that america has is old Pontiac GTO's, ford mustangs, Dodge charger, plymouth hemi cuda.... and a few more i can't remember right now....

Pontiac is america's version of holden, and in the UK, Vauxhall is their version of the aussie holden...

[STREETFIRE]

I wouldn't say that the Yankee muscle cars are worse or better. While the American muscle cars had the power (and lots of it too), ours had power and handling, being bred for Bathurst (annual touring car race).

More pics?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r446/PRO080/TUFF%20HQs/CircleworkHQpics060.jpg

[sagwa]

Wait a second... isn't Holden a division of GM?? Doesn't GM create other divisions for specific countries? In that respect aren't they pretty much the same?????????:-k

[Don't know 2.0]

i would guess... considering honda and acura have a similar relationship. and so does toyota and lexus. i think its just that automotive makers branch out into different countries and just call what ever is produced there a different name.

[sagwa]

While we are on the subject of extreme and really COOL muscle cars, there is a bit of a confession I need to make...

Before I got my Solara, my father actually offered to get me a brand new C6 Corvette.

[råZør]

While we are on the subject of extreme and really COOL muscle cars, there is a bit of a confession I need to make...

Before I got my Solara, my father actually offered to get me a brand new C6 Corvette.

YOU CHOSE WHAT OVER THE CORVETTE?!?!?!

Oh dear. Pure travesty.

[STREETFIRE]

Wait a second... isn't Holden a division of GM?? Doesn't GM create other divisions for specific countries? In that respect aren't they pretty much the same?????????:-kHolden is owned by General Motors, but unlike the US, Holden is the ONLY GM-owned company in Australia. America and Europe have a million different companies owned by GM - Saturn, Pontiac, Chevy, etc. There's less and less of GM showing through Holden, know what I mean? Holden do their own thing where possible, not like Chevy or Pontiac where they do everything GM tell them to.

[Don't know 2.0]

right. because then a holden wouldn't be a holden if GM controlled them entirely

[STREETFIRE]

Exactly. If car manufacturers didn't do their own thing (independent of controlling companies) then they may as well all be one big company.

That said... I wonder why the hell they have Opel and Vauxhall in Europe. It just seems stupid, the only car Opel has made that Vauxhall hasn't is the Rekord/Kadett/etc. and the only car Vauxhall has made in Europe that Opel hasn't is the Monaro, and even that is a Holden!

[winschy]

Street, whats your verdict on a (i think iit is) hz 1 tonne?? with the 202 in it?? how much would you pay for one of them??

[STREETFIRE]

HZ tonner? 202 six-pot? Depends on what condition its' in, most of them are used for hauling around stuff for local businesses, I've seen a few 'round here.

[winschy]

A mate of mine from rocky is sellin his, yea its a 6 cyl, im pretty sure its a manual, before he sells it to me for $1500, he's gonna get all the rust out of it, paint it metallic black, new handbrake cable, maybe recondition the motor... and new set of rims... after all that, he's gonna give it to me for around $6000....
what you rekon bout that?

[STREETFIRE]

Rust-free HZ tunna for six grand? Good deal.

By the way, does it have a proper HZ front or does it still have the original one-tonner front - the pov HQ Belmont-looking front?

[winschy]

Ummm, I don't know, i'll try and get a pic and upload it....

[STREETFIRE]

Sorry to be impatient but wheres the pic?

[sagwa]

Where did everyone go??

Ooohhh, scary... a dead zone... :P

[Don't know 2.0]

the dead zone.... i haven't been too talkative lately sorry:(

[sagwa]

Omg!!!!!! He's alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!8|

[Don't know 2.0]

what, did you think i died?;)

[sagwa]

Razor is all like 'I'm Back!' but now

POOF!!
and he is gone again. I'm glad you survived though or else I would be forced to type to myself!!;)

[Don't know 2.0]

that would be funny,.hey know any aussie muscle?

[STREETFIRE]

My internet's been out for two weeks and Winschy still hasn't come back...

[winschy]

Had to go down to Victoria to check out my missu's torana. she's givin it to me so now i don't have to worry about the tonne.... i'll upload a pic of it soon

[STREETFIRE]

Sounds good. What model?

[winschy]

422

Thats her torana...

[STREETFIRE]

Ahh ok. Does it run a six? What are you planning to do with it?

[winschy]

I'm pretty sure its just a six, and considerin i'm bout to go on my p's, and the new ****ty laws, I won't be able to do anything to it... = (

[STREETFIRE]

Doesn't Queensland have those bloody P-plate laws in which you can't have a turbo/supercharged engine or a V8?

[winschy]

thats the laws im on about, can't drive anything over 200kw = (

[STREETFIRE]

Over 200kW? No way! That means that you can drive an old 150kW VP SS, but you cant drive a new family sedan! Isn't it a power-to-weight rule or something? I'm more familiar with Vic's laws on P-platers, but us lucky SA boys don't get ANY P-plate restrictions whatsoever.

[winschy]

you lucky buggers. well when i move to victoria, and do some modification to it, i'll take it to ya and let ya try its potential, and let me know what else i could do to it. im not too flash with the old carby's, cause 99.9% of cars we get at work, and either common rail, or direct injection....

[STREETFIRE]

Don't worry about taking it to me mate - it ain't hard to do up a Torana. Unless you're going to bolt on a turbo to the side of the six, don't even bother with trying to get some power out of it - these things barely manage 90kW stock.

For now, replace the snorkel-type air cleaner with a proper cotton filter and get a less restrictive exhaust, that will give it some more growl and some more go. Okay, maybe only 10hp more, but it's a start. Then when you get off your P's you can either bolt on a turbo or bite the bullet and go V8 power.'

By the way, we're not really lucky. We've still got restrictive rego laws - if you want to go all-out on modifications, move to WA, or even better, NZ. They have nitrous, blowers, turbos and all legal!

[winschy]

I thought blowers were legal in Vic =s

[STREETFIRE]

Not on P's they aren't. Plus there's the inherent power restrictions too to deal with, so you can't exploit the no-blow laws by building a high-powered n/a car.

[winschy]

Yea..... point taken.... can't wait till im off my p's

[Don't know 2.0]

man. THOse laws must really mess with ya. sorry i haven't really been around. i gotta deal with other matters.

[winschy]

Yea mate, they really do suck. All cause of the new govt. trying to crack down on 'young' people thinking that we apparently 'hoon' but oh well.... thats govenments for ya...

[STREETFIRE]

Anything been happening?

[Don't know 2.0]

well, today our presidential candidates are being voted on, so its always possible that we could see some new driving laws nationwide, but then again they never say anything about the small matters.

[winschy]

You rekon your laws will change??

[Don't know 2.0]

well since obama looks towards alternative energies we could have one of those emission limits like they do in large metropolitan areas, but like i said who knows. one thing is for certain: i will not be driving a hybrid, no i'd rather the sun burn up the earth before i betray what automotives mean:D:D:D

[STREETFIRE]

^^^ Truth.

[winschy]

Well said.

[Don't know 2.0]

i like the environment, but how would amazing cars like aussie muscle or american muscle ever be built, when you have all these batteries and alternative pieces for the engine? the new supra.... i'm ashamed at it, but there's a hybrid version. thats just wrong

[sagwa]

Ohh, the FT-HS thingy?? That thing is as ugly as hell :P

[Don't know 2.0]

well its the way everything else is. all these other cars look soo ugly, that newer cars get the disease and just ruin my visits to toyota lots. ah... i miss the old days(93-02) when good stuff actually was around

[STREETFIRE]

And I miss my good days! (1979-1995)...

[sagwa]

Don't forget 1958, the birth of the almighty 'Vette !! ;)

[Don't know 2.0]

*heavenly opera*

[STREETFIRE]

I wasn't around in 1958, d'oh...

[Don't know 2.0]

i liked the 62' over all the other first gen vettes

[winschy]

After me and my mate invest in an old charger, I'll upload some pics of the before and after pics of it :DD

[sagwa]

Yay, makeover!!!!!!:)

[STREETFIRE]

After me and my mate invest in an old charger, I'll upload some pics of the before and after pics of it :DDAwesome. Aussie or American, and what model?

[sagwa]

The American one rulez!!! ;)

[STREETFIRE]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Myvhe55-1-.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Valiantcharger.JPG/800px-Valiantcharger.JPG
http://www.moparmuscle69.com/130403_OzHemi2_Valiant.jpg
http://www.nzmoparregistry.co.nz/assets/rte49.jpg

This is an Aussie Charger.

[Don't know 2.0]

pretty impressive but i'll go with the american charger on this one.

[sagwa]

Me too, the American one is infallible! The Aussie one still looks nice tho;)

[Don't know 2.0]

yea.. reminds me of the 70's... good days that i was never in!

[sagwa]

When disco was groovy, and the guys had huge puffy hair and high heels with goldfish in them!!:P

[Don't know 2.0]

and lots of sparkling. i'm surprised everyone isn't blind

[STREETFIRE]

Don't forget the porn-star moustaches :-p

[sagwa]

LMAO X 5000 =P

Reminds me a little of Zack and Miri. Thanks for tha image =P

[Don't know 2.0]

and the whole time australia's like w tf mate(its from a youtube vid)

[winschy]

Awesome. Aussie or American, and what model?


Umm, i'm pretty sure he wants to get the American one, even tho the Aussie ones do have a lot of potential.... but sad news is, he spoke to his old man about it, and now his old man has convinced him to do speedway instead.... =(

[sagwa]

Then try to convince him not to. Say that he's gonna get killed in an accident and that he's too inexperienced to do speedway =P

[winschy]

He rekons he's a good driver because he can kick the ass of his car sideways around a corner, and call it drifting, i try not to laugh....

[sagwa]

Do you think I could drift better?? =P

How sad if I could!!

[winschy]

Well to be totally honest, I personally rekon you could drift better than him...

[sagwa]

LMAO, I've never done it in my life =P

Must really suck!!

[winschy]

I wouldn't be suprised if this was the way you drive.... :DD

[Don't know 2.0]

yeah that would be sagwa lol:drunk:

[sagwa]

Lol, Streetfire knows me so well!!! =P

[STREETFIRE]

What? .

[Don't know 2.0]

i don't know how that is funny but hearing him say what is really funny.


(loser says what...)

[pjstemplates]

Cheers mate. I have my dad to thank me fro introducing me to some old cars, and know I've taken that a lot further.

[sagwa]

i actually drew my own muscle car once, i called it the "injection concept" =P

[Don't know 2.0]

it turned out to be a camaro and an s2000 fused together.. lol

[sagwa]

nope, not exactly lol, but good idea!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[Don't know 2.0]

lol. well, what did it look like?

[sagwa]

ughh to lazy to photocopy!!!!!!!!!!

[Drk Guy]

LuLz, muscle + tuner = nice combination, would love to drive a car with the insane accel of muscles and the stylish handling of tuners :D

[sagwa]

Omg you're baccccccckkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Neo25]

it turned out to be a camaro and an s2000 fused together.. lol

LMAO, I have to see this! Post it up if you're still around

[sagwa]

well it wasn't anything like that...
but GOODDDDDDDDDDDDD IIIIDEEAAAAA IMMMMMAAAA DOOOOOO ITT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!